Indian summer in November? Nevah hoid a such a thing! Do such things exist?
And alas, while there was a weekend in October that looked promising for a late-year backpacking trip, Mrs Elliott quashed the deal by pointing out that we had some pesky previously-booked family thing I would not be allowed to get out of unless I broke a bone.
We actually had pretty nice weather this fall, although not quite warm enough to qualify as a true Indian summer in my book. And winter arrived right on schedule on Oct. 31.
Jack Elliott said... Indian summer in November? Nevah hoid a such a thing! Do such things exist?
It's the very -definition- of Indian Summer. Posted the Wiki link when Bruce first introduced the loooongshot possibility. In order to qualify, there has to have been at least (1) freeze/frost.
That's why we should take exception when cheeleaders bust out the pom-poms and proclaim a week sans rain in Sept. (Aug?) qualifies.
Regardless, already making plans to be at the in-laws in Nesko for a front row seat. Might as well, can't dance. My homemade ( read 190 Proof grain alcohol ) Kahlua has become quite a hit?
The way this is shaping up, next batch will be in a wheel barrow. But like I say, I'm no longer invested in anticipating anything more than Derivations of Drear from PNW weather.
It's... a pretty commonly accepted version of a not all that 'rare' phenomenon.
Having grown up in the -same- MidWestern town thru HS, I'd say it was more the rule than the exception. How can any schoolboy forget his menopausal teachers lamenting "Does it EVER cool off around here?"
In any event, the models are breaking down. Duluth now has as cr@ppy a weather as we do on almost any given day. Even my much-loved Hawthorne, NV is looking less desert-like every Fall and Spring. Yes, their sweet-spot is collapsing too...
If nudie-fest Burning Man gets bumped to JULY would that impress any of you guys? Thought not. All just a coincidence!
The effects of the Snowicane WILL have an impact and provide an early treat for skiers as far east as the Rockies. I'm sorry.., do they have chicks in bikinis getting wasted on Coronas and playfully tugging at each other's suits at the slopes?
Burning Man? LOL, the first Mrs. Elliott is on their board of directors. I've never been to a Burning Man, but plenty of people love the experience.
Yep, the models are breaking down. As ever they do. Nothing is permanent. All we can do is try to avoid participating in driving things into the suckier direction.
So . . . Marshall: I'm 61, married (on my third and best) and spent most of my life in SoCal. What's your story? You seem a bit combative, willing to mix it up a bit on this blog.
Right, just as it's simply my imagination that -millions- of toursts flock to New England every year to take in the fall colors wearing arctic mittens to clutch cameras and wool lined parka's to shield against cruel and buffeting winds?
Our host recently went and had a dreadful time holed up in a bed & breakfast ala Seinfeld, right? :)
Is this whole concept of other parts of the country actually enjoying Fall weather rather than bracing for it just all too much for some people? YES, while normally associated with Regions that actually have -defined- seasons, they occur in nearly every climate and corner of the globe.
Just not here. I'm arguing w/ (2) Californians about Indian Summer! Dur...
Maybe that's my problem? I've been married over 27 years. Incredibly ALL to the same woman. I know, stoopid right? If she won't leave me in 'this' economy, likely I'll never get rid of her. Think of it as "saving up for a divorce".
Combative? I'm used to Housing Bubble/Economic blogs. ( Kind of melded into one in the same ) and when it comes to $$$, trust me, this is pretty tame.
As I've noted numerous times, I moved her w/ my [now deceased] eldest sister in 1977. The same year I grad'd HS. Like Keith Richards, for all the partying I've done, YES, believe it or not I remember every last BIT of it! Oregon USED to have very different weather. Very.
But we've established that -direct- experience and long term personal and upfront contact w/ a subject matter don't count for jookie here. Not as long as a carefully cherry-picked chart can be splattered up that serves our cheerleading agenda.
As a longtime stocktrader ( which probably counts for jack too ) I've learned if you crop a chart carefully enough, you can get it to say whatever you WANT it to say!
My point exactly. I never said Duluth had all that great a weather. It happens to be on a similar Parallel and I drew it out of a hat. Kind of like picking the Cubs to take the Series looking for a big payoff.
Not so incredibly I'm told that many tourists coming thru K' Falls round that time of year are Nudie-seekers from Screamattle. I don't 'blame' ANYONE for wanting to get some sun on their buns. Sheesh, go for it.
I drove thru Blackrock Desert several times but always the week 'before'. Temp. on the Jag said 117 deg. Gerlach, NV is kinda cool and we're not ruling out Fallon. Just we'll keep our clothes on thanks. I can't imagine arguing in the buff. Maybe that's the point?
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Sounds par for the course. Bring camera, and bottle. So this pretty much nixes the whole Indian Summer thing huh?
Into Rockies.., so no one is escaping this one. Enjoy.
Pish-posh. Media hysterics. Watch the storm peter out.
Indian summer in November? Nevah hoid a such a thing! Do such things exist?
And alas, while there was a weekend in October that looked promising for a late-year backpacking trip, Mrs Elliott quashed the deal by pointing out that we had some pesky previously-booked family thing I would not be allowed to get out of unless I broke a bone.
We actually had pretty nice weather this fall, although not quite warm enough to qualify as a true Indian summer in my book. And winter arrived right on schedule on Oct. 31.
Jack Elliott said...
Indian summer in November? Nevah hoid a such a thing! Do such things exist?
It's the very -definition- of Indian Summer. Posted the Wiki link when Bruce first introduced the loooongshot possibility. In order to qualify, there has to have been at least (1) freeze/frost.
That's why we should take exception when cheeleaders bust out the pom-poms and proclaim a week sans rain in Sept. (Aug?) qualifies.
Regardless, already making plans to be at the in-laws in Nesko for a front row seat. Might as well, can't dance. My homemade ( read 190 Proof grain alcohol ) Kahlua has become quite a hit?
The way this is shaping up, next batch will be in a wheel barrow. But like I say, I'm no longer invested in anticipating anything more than Derivations of Drear from PNW weather.
Ever Bailing Out Incrementally Yours!
Marshall_Will
Haven't figured out what's the difference between a "snowicane" and a blizzard.
Well, a "snowicane" is a peppermint-flavored sugar confection in the shape of a shepherd's crook, with a white body and red stripes.
Wait. No. That's a candy cane.
I'm sorry, I can't be of any help here.
"It's the very -definition- of Indian Summer. Posted the Wiki link when Bruce first introduced the loooongshot possibility."
That's what I get for not hanging onto every word The Bruce writes.
"Indian summer in November? Nevah hoid a such a thing! Do such things exist?"
Apparently it did as some point in dude's imagination...
And winter arrived right on schedule on Oct. 31
Always an easy call...
Jack,
It's... a pretty commonly accepted version of a not all that 'rare' phenomenon.
Having grown up in the -same- MidWestern town thru HS, I'd say it was more the rule than the exception. How can any schoolboy forget his menopausal teachers lamenting "Does it EVER cool off around here?"
In any event, the models are breaking down. Duluth now has as cr@ppy a weather as we do on almost any given day. Even my much-loved Hawthorne, NV is looking less desert-like every Fall and Spring. Yes, their sweet-spot is collapsing too...
If nudie-fest Burning Man gets bumped to JULY would that impress any of you guys? Thought not. All just a coincidence!
The effects of the Snowicane WILL have an impact and provide an early treat for skiers as far east as the Rockies. I'm sorry.., do they have chicks in bikinis getting wasted on Coronas and playfully tugging at each other's suits at the slopes?
No? Darn!
Burning Man? LOL, the first Mrs. Elliott is on their board of directors. I've never been to a Burning Man, but plenty of people love the experience.
Yep, the models are breaking down. As ever they do. Nothing is permanent. All we can do is try to avoid participating in driving things into the suckier direction.
So . . . Marshall: I'm 61, married (on my third and best) and spent most of my life in SoCal. What's your story? You seem a bit combative, willing to mix it up a bit on this blog.
Burning Man is an excuse for old hippies, ex-hippies and wannabe hippies to get stoned and nekkid. Why they need an excuse is what I can't understand.
"Duluth now has as cr@ppy a weather as we do"
Duluth, MN??? When did that place EVER have a decent climate?
Right, just as it's simply my imagination that -millions- of toursts flock to New England every year to take in the fall colors wearing arctic mittens to clutch cameras and wool lined parka's to shield against cruel and buffeting winds?
Our host recently went and had a dreadful time holed up in a bed & breakfast ala Seinfeld, right? :)
Is this whole concept of other parts of the country actually enjoying Fall weather rather than bracing for it just all too much for some people? YES, while normally associated with Regions that actually have -defined- seasons, they occur in nearly every climate and corner of the globe.
Just not here. I'm arguing w/ (2) Californians about Indian Summer! Dur...
Could be Duluth, Georgia. Somewhat different climate, is my guess.
Jack,
Maybe that's my problem? I've been married over 27 years. Incredibly ALL to the same woman. I know, stoopid right? If she won't leave me in 'this' economy, likely I'll never get rid of her. Think of it as "saving up for a divorce".
Combative? I'm used to Housing Bubble/Economic blogs. ( Kind of melded into one in the same ) and when it comes to $$$, trust me, this is pretty tame.
As I've noted numerous times, I moved her w/ my [now deceased] eldest sister in 1977. The same year I grad'd HS. Like Keith Richards, for all the partying I've done, YES, believe it or not I remember every last BIT of it! Oregon USED to have very different weather. Very.
But we've established that -direct- experience and long term personal and upfront contact w/ a subject matter don't count for jookie here. Not as long as a carefully cherry-picked chart can be splattered up that serves our cheerleading agenda.
As a longtime stocktrader ( which probably counts for jack too ) I've learned if you crop a chart carefully enough, you can get it to say whatever you WANT it to say!
That's my story...
Bruce,
My point exactly. I never said Duluth had all that great a weather. It happens to be on a similar Parallel and I drew it out of a hat. Kind of like picking the Cubs to take the Series looking for a big payoff.
Not so incredibly I'm told that many tourists coming thru K' Falls round that time of year are Nudie-seekers from Screamattle. I don't 'blame' ANYONE for wanting to get some sun on their buns. Sheesh, go for it.
I drove thru Blackrock Desert several times but always the week 'before'. Temp. on the Jag said 117 deg. Gerlach, NV is kinda cool and we're not ruling out Fallon. Just we'll keep our clothes on thanks. I can't imagine arguing in the buff. Maybe that's the point?
So . . . how devastating was that Incredible Alaskan Snowicane, anyway. I didn't notice anything.
Jack: It was really brutal ... in northern Alaska.
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